O F**K

[phee]

Here he goes again

[Hellion]

Here he goes again

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All I can say is F#$K!!!! :fear

[pharoh]

Yay lets revive eshalonf :devil

I know ppl here are hard core anti bush, and I am quite the opposite (I don't want to hear flaming, cause I am entitled to my opinion), but this is a bunch of bullshit.

[phee]

Yay lets revive eshalonf :devil

I know ppl here are hard core anti bush, and I am quite the opposite (I don't want to hear flaming, cause I am entitled to my opinion), but this is a bunch of bullshit.

I am not going to bash you about your opinion don't worry... and yes it is a bunch of BS

[Hellion]

I am not going to bash you about your opinion don't worry... and yes it is a bunch of BS

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:devil Damn straight it's BS!!!

[pharoh]

Personally I don't have anything to hide, I may pirate something once in awhile :pirate, but still I thought we had a right to privacy......

[AstralCrux]

Dang it Bush, stop trying to make the goths go emo!

[phee]

I have nothing to hide either.... but that's not the point

[pharoh]

I thought I established that

[The_Dark]

What part of the act scares you?

[Shade Everdark]

Hm...the part where it exists in this country.

[phee]

The invasion of privacy without due process to be frank... it seems not very Republican which I believe one of the main thrusts is to have the Federal Government out of peoples personal lives and property, and not very Democratic either, which would be to fight for human dignity....

It just seems kind of... Bush Administrationish.... I don't feel any safer having him as president... in fact the worst terrorist attacks in human history (arguably) happened under his "watch" and this as far as I can tell hasn't made me feel more safe either... now I have terrorists and the government wanting to control me.... and exageration but you get the idea

[Msterbeau]

Hm...the part where it exists in this country.

*Falls over laughing*

Nice.

[Msterbeau]

The invasion of privacy without due process to be frank... it seems not very Republican which I believe one of the main thrusts is to have the Federal Government out of peoples personal lives and property, and not very Democratic either, which would be to fight for human dignity....

It just seems kind of... Bush Administrationish.... I don't feel any safer having him as president... in fact the worst terrorist attacks in human history (arguably) happened under his "watch" and this as far as I can tell hasn't made me feel more safe either... now I have terrorists and the government wanting to control me.... and exageration but you get the idea

Republicans may not like big goverment... but they sure don't mind having one that's secretive, abusive of power and willing to deprive you of your rights in the name of national security...

[FarrIL]

"Meth is easy to make," the president said. "It is highly addictive. It is ruining too many lives across our country. The bill introduces commonsense safeguards that would make many of the ingredients used in manufacturing meth harder to obtain in bulk, and easier for law enforcement to track."

(( Sorry Pharoh ))

So, like, he goes from saying that signing to revive this act (( which I admit I find hard to follow )) will save lives, to saying that Meth is dangerous.

Way to stay on topic.

Someone please explain this ordeal to me because I dont understand it. I may be biased because I hate Bush...... but please clarify WTF is going on....... ;_;

[Msterbeau]

(( Sorry Pharoh ))

So, like, he goes from saying that signing to revive this act (( which I admit I find hard to follow )) will save lives, to saying that Meth is dangerous.

Way to stay on topic.

Someone please explain this ordeal to me because I dont understand it. I may be biased because I hate Bush...... but please clarify WTF is going on....... ;_;

Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act

That should give you a primer. Skip down to the part labeled "provisions of the act"

Try this for the implications: http://www.november.org/razorwire/rzold/26/page14.html

I'd google and read a few different sources for a reasonable understanding of all sides of this thing.

[Crazed Vampyress]

the actual thought going thru my brain was

"holy fucking god, this is fucking ridiculous...oh MY GAWD!"

i think thats a fair response.

[phee]

the actual thought going thru my brain was

"holy fucking god, this is fucking ridiculous...oh MY GAWD!"

i think thats a fair response.

Indeed

[phee]

see? my point

[Head Wreck]

least bush is on his final term. phoney tony will be there untill his party rebels (and he's not slow to politicaly slap back bench rebels) or another party gets in.

most of the other parties are far far worse

[Mikielikesit]

These bastards really suck they will eventually take away all our rights and we will have no privacy............its the end times .......the sky is falling the sky is falling

[DarkVampire]

Even though I have nothing to hude nor do I do anything illegal, I am sick of the pseudo fascist government sticking their nose in honest citizens business. No wonder I don't vote.

[Soulrev]

I'd rather live in America where the government CAN spy on you rather than let's say, China, where the government WILL spy on you.

Relax. Don't do it.

And be happy you're here lol.

[Msterbeau]

I'd rather live in America where the government CAN spy on you rather than  let's say, China, where the government WILL spy on you.

Relax. Don't do it.

And be happy you're here lol.

I have a better idea. Let's not relax... the minute we do we're on the slippery slope to being just like China. No thanks.

If you don't mind giving up your rights, don't complain when you find they're all gone.

[phee]

I have a better idea.  Let's not relax... the minute we do we're on the slippery slope to being just like China.  No thanks. 

If you don't mind giving up your rights, don't complain when you find they're all gone.

Indeed