Is anyone on thse forums racist?

[JaneDead]

I dont give a damn if people label me, I know they do, you just labeld me in your post.  Why should I care what someone I dont even know thinks? thats why I cant understand why people have such a problem with others opinion.  You can call me ignorant or close minded, and ill brush it off...I dont see how this can be hard.  Ive posted this same thing on other forums and found other people, and we vent about it in private messages, sometimes it helps with things, everyone else complains but I cant? I can think of several discussions that peopel talk about/complain about on this site and I think its "just stupid" but I dont say anything.

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"complaining" about something is one thing, being a "racist" is entirely different. how can you even compare the two??

people grow up and teach other children this way of life. it is like a disease. it spreads and grows without reason. that is not the same as saying dgn is stupid or complaining about something else.

seriously- do you think it is more important to think dgn is stupid or hate people for the color of their skin? for how they were born? for something that really has no bearing on who they are as a person, a human being, flesh and blood just like YOU?

[phee]

I really need some criteria from where you are coming from here... can you please address this?

Can you describe your definition of racist?

And your reasons aren't really as important as how your problem takes form... how does your racism manifest itself? Which race are you racist against?

[DJ Nocker]

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Sorry, I was reading everyone else's posts and replying, I didnt notice you were the first to reply to it, I read and type kinda slow so....

Can you describe your definition of racist?

Im sure you are going to define it for me any ways but I just think of it as not liking someone due to there racial backgrounds.

And your reasons aren't really as important as how your problem takes form... how does your racism manifest itself?

Im not going to beat the shit out of someone or go burn there house down, Im not that hardcore. Will I be short in conversation and avoid long periods of contact with them, yes. Will I be sharp with them in tone if I have to speak with them, maybe.

Which race are you racist against?

Is that really important? or will it just give people something else to target me about?

[torn asunder]

to find other people to talk about it with privatly, to rant about things ect.  and defending racism is never going to work, even I know that.  its like saying black is white, at least in this forum as I found out just now.

if you wanted to find other racists to discuss this with, you could have very easily stated so in your original post... you stated

And I also wanted to see how many people would "break rule #1" as well becuase of my voicing my opinion.  I have my reasons to be racist and wont bring them up so dont ask for the record.

which means you were intentionally trying to get people to brek the rules, which is instigating and inflammatory, and isn't allowed. saying that you "wont bring them up so dont ask" means that you're unwilling to talk about it, not that you want to talk with it off-board with other like-minded people. please do your best to be clear when you make a post, it will help tremendously! =)

[phee]

Sorry, I was reading everyone else's posts and replying, I didnt notice you were the first to reply to it, I read and type kinda slow so....

Can you describe your definition of racist?

   Im sure you are going to define it for me any ways but I just think of it as not liking someone due to there racial backgrounds.

And your reasons aren't really as important as how your problem takes form... how does your racism manifest itself?

  Im not going to beat the shit out of someone or go burn there house down, Im not that hardcore.  Will I be short in conversation and avoid long periods of contact with them, yes.  Will I be sharp with them in tone if I have to speak with them, maybe.

Which race are you racist against?

   Is that really important? or will it just give people something else to target me about?

This is very interesting to me... and no I won't presume to describe it for you... I am curious however, you mentioned a "racial background" how would you define this? The backgroand that one usually associates with a certain skin color? or the skin color that they were born with automatically makes them not worthy of the same respect you give others?

[DJ Nocker]

if you wanted to find other racists to discuss this with, you could have very easily stated so in your original post... you stated

which means you were intentionally trying to get people to brek the rules, which is instigating and inflammatory, and isn't allowed. saying that you "wont bring them up so dont ask" means that you're unwilling to talk about it, not that you want to talk with it off-board with other like-minded people. please do your best to be clear when you make a post, it will help tremendously!  =)

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good point...my bad thanx for that, wasnt thinking.

[phee]

This is very interesting to me... and no I won't presume to describe it for you... I am curious however, you mentioned a "racial background" how would you define this? The backgroand that one usually associates with a certain skin color? or the skin color that they were born with automatically makes them not worthy of the same respect you give others?

Just wanted to bump this up

[DJ Nocker]

This is very interesting to me... and no I won't presume to describe it for you... I am curious however, you mentioned a "racial background" how would you define this? The backgroand that one usually associates with a certain skin color? or the skin color that they were born with automatically makes them not worthy of the same respect you give others?

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You kow what, this was obviusly a bad idea,I was just irritated and posted wrong and I guess in a wrong place as well so lets all just forget it, go ahead and delete the page I am just pissed off right now and shouldnt have done this in the first place.

sorry for getting everyone irritated.

and sorry if you all think different of me now.

[The_Dark]

being racists is human nature. Most of us overcome it... or at least we tell ourselves we have.

I admit I am racists. There is one particular race I have a hard time dealing with and I know I that I "look down" on them fromt he moment I meet them.

Honestly, my friends in real life were shocked when I finally admitted this to them because I do my best to keep those thoughts to my self.

[JaneDead]

You kow what, this was obviusly a bad idea,I was just irritated and posted wrong and I guess in a wrong place as well so lets all just forget it, go ahead and delete the page  I am just pissed off right now and shouldnt have done this in the first place.

sorry for getting everyone irritated.

and sorry if you all think different of me now.

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well... i don't think differently of you now... but now i know you are a racist. so thanks for the info.

[Steven]

being racists is human nature. Most of us overcome it... or at least we tell ourselves we have.

I admit I am racists. There is one particular race I have a hard time dealing with and I know I that I "look down" on them fromt he moment I meet them.

Honestly, my friends in real life were shocked when I finally admitted this to them because I do my best to keep those thoughts to my self.

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ok, well I admit that yes i am shocked.

I dig you, I'll probabaly still dig you, but I do find this disturbing.

I joke about being a Latin man.

IN school I was not brown enough, nor was I white enough, so I took to the middle and felt ostracized from both sides.

I forget how that feels as I grow older. But then it comes back.

Two weeks ago my sister in law called and left a nasty message on our answering machine. Too long to go into it, whol e other subject.

But she chose to call me a Stupid Mexican. And so I remebered. The feeling. Her sons by the way, call me "Juan" at home. It's not meant as a compliment.

Logic tells me to ignore it, and I must.

But to be mexican (or whatever race) and be reduced for it, by way of it, with an intentional want to cause harm......by a racist comment does indeed hit its mark.

Especially if you've worked very hard to overcome certain things, to be of service to others, to improve yrouself, to be involved, etc.

And yet despite whatever I've done with my life, in reality I'm just another Mexican. Another one of THEM.

The Message that racism communicates is simply this: you are LESS than. You are not YOU. You are THEM.

I hope one day you change your mind Mark.

Steven

[The_Dark]

Most people are shocked by it if they find out. I do my best to over come it and never let it show. I do try to not even think that way...

[BrassFusion]

I am and I was wondering if anyone else is, And I also wanted to see how many people would "break rule #1" as well becuase of my voicing my opinion.  I have my reasons to be racist and wont bring them up so dont ask for the record.

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There's no valid reason to be racist.

Unless you're racist against trolls. I am.

[JaneDead]

i get pretty sensitive about the issue and today it really hit me why after all this -

when i was in grade school this black girl i went to school with really really hated white people. she hated them so much. and she was a bully too, mean and violent. one day we had to sit in our gym, the whole school for something and she was behind me. and i heard her say to her other friend who also hated white people "awww we have to sit by these white bitches?!" referring to me and my friend. and then she kicked me and i fell off my chair. i don't know what hurt worse? that she kicked me so damn hard or that she hated me because i was white.

another day out on the play ground she was picking on another one of my friends, laura, a white girl. she got in her face and told her how much she hated white people and how it was our fault there was slavery and how she was a stupid ugly white girl and should get her ass beat etc etc she was about to beat her ass even. and laura... she was just the sweetest harmless girl ever. she just stood there and said nothing. i think i went and got someone (an adult) to break up the fight before it started. i went home crying to my mom about all this going on and she said some things that really helped me and also made me NOT hate this girl even though she hated me for being white. she said just remind her that not only black people were slaves, that other people over time have been slaves. and that it was not MY fault that people were ever slaves in the first place, i was only a 12 year old girl. and other things that really made me understand, rather than hate.

i thank god that my parents didn't in turn make me hate black people for hating white people. they just made me understand that she was being raised to feel that way but it was not right. and it was not fair.

also speaking of god... most people i EVER met that were racist believe in god. and i wonder... how is that possible? if you believe in god and you believe that god put everyone here... how can you hate them for the color of their skin? if god put "them" here, "we" were all meant to be here. together. helping one another, not hating. not looking out for yourself and pushing someone else aside because they are not like you.

[Hellion]

:devil I'm an opportunity racist,I hate poeple in general,no matter what nationality they are,I love my friends and family thats it.I judge on actions not color.nough said.IMO.

[Msterbeau]

also speaking of god... most people i EVER met that were racist believe in god. and i wonder... how is that possible? if you believe in god and you believe that god put everyone here... how can you hate them for the color of their skin? if god put "them" here, "we" were all meant to be here. together. helping one another, not hating. not looking out for yourself and pushing someone else aside because they are not like you.

This is one of those questions that turns me off to the whole notion of god.. How can such hypocrites be associated with the concept of a benevolent creator? But this is a whole other topic...

And yeah.. racism. WTF. We are all flesh and blood no matter our skin color. For some reason it seems to make some people feel good to belittle a group of people for some percieved difference. Like race. Or they judge an entire group on their experiences with a few. Double WTF. I grew up in a VERY white neighborhood yet in highschool my best friend was black. Later on I pondered how that came to be. I attribute it to my parents complete lack of prejudice in most regards. I wish people didn't pass stuff like this on to their kids... The world would be such a better place.

[Hellion]

This is one of those questions that turns me off to the whole notion of god..  How can such hypocrites be associated with the concept of a benevolent creator?  But this is a whole other topic...

And yeah..  racism.  WTF.  We are all flesh and blood no matter our skin color.  For some reason it seems to make some people feel good to belittle a group of people for some percieved difference.  Like race.  Or they judge an entire group on their experiences with a few.  Double WTF.  I grew up in a VERY white neighborhood yet in highschool my best friend was black.  Later on I pondered how that came to be.  I attribute it to my parents complete lack of prejudice in most regards.  I wish people didn't pass stuff like this on to their kids...  The world would be such a better place.

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:devil Right on brother.

[Brenda Starrr]

:erm  :blink

i already do NOT like where this is so very obviously going to go ...

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Oh boy

Not racist, but I am biased against racist people. Also thinking it's silly to intentionally start a thread to incite people to "break rule # 1."

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^5

remember, people, to keep it friendly!  =)

i am curious, however, why someone would start a topic and then not be willing to discuss it, or defend their position...

if you won't talk about the reasons for your being racist, what's the point of this post?  :erm

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You're so........authoritative.

[saechalyn]

I am not racist, but I will admit that I grew up that way. Both of my parents were, and for a long time I just didn't know any other way to be. I didn't actively recognize it or think about it much. We lived in a dirty, dangerous neighborhood where we were the only white people so that didn't help. It took getting to know someone of a different race as an individual to realize that my thinking was wrong, and even then it took a LONG time to break those old thought patterns.

[LuluVox]

I am not racist, but I will admit that I grew up that way.  Both of my parents were, and for a long time I just didn't know any other way to be.  I didn't actively recognize it or think about it much.  We lived in a dirty, dangerous neighborhood where we were the only white people so that didn't help.  It took getting to know someone of a different race as an individual to realize that my thinking was wrong, and even then it took a LONG time to break those old thought patterns.

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It's OK, you're just like Bettie in The Notorious Bettie Page..."I was (racist) when I was little, but then I learned better." :grin

[saechalyn]

It's OK, you're just like Bettie in The Notorious Bettie Page..."I was (racist) when I was little, but then I learned better."  :grin 

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EXACTLY!!!

[Steven]

Brenda LOVES Latino Men who sing in rock bands.

[Steven]

Most people are shocked by it if they find out. I do my best to over come it and never let it show. I do try to not even think that way...

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I like you Mark.

You have my respect.

[Daevion]

yes and no.....my contempt is for ALL of humanity....I dont know if anyone would consider that racist......

[odims_sphere]

I wouldn't call it racist, but after spending a year in Iraq where Arabs consistantly blew themselves up and tried to kill me I've developed a caution around aribic people. I know they are not going to explode here, and no one is "out to get me", but after all the conditioning it's hard to just turn it off. I don't know if I ever will be able to. By no means is it hate I feel, more like a hightened sence of awareness around them.