cigarettes

[asphyxian_doll]

lol...babes....at 8 pm...when my show is about to start...and the headlining band decided not to show....and another band has a sick member.....I'm not going to run to a health food store and get a bottle of pomegranate juice....I'm gonna chain smoke while wonder WTF the bands were thinking...and the rest of the time running around like a chicken with my head cut off, out smoking a chimney, hoping to the gods that nothing else goes wrong....without the smokes on a concert night....you don't want to see me....cuz I'm nothing but nerves....if anything...I'm a social smoker that REALLY smokes hardcore when things go wrong...

pomegranate juice???.....

Im talking cigarettes...they don't relieve stress.....shit you could shove a cucumber up your ass and relieve more stress that way.

[Guest GodfallenPromos]

Acetone

Cyanide

Aluminum

DDT/Dieldrin

Ammonia

Ethenol

Arsenic

Formaldehyde

Benzene

Hydrogen cyanide

Butane

Lead

Cadmium

Methanol

Carbon monoxide

Nicotine

Carbon dioxide

Tar

Chloroform

Vinyl Chloride

those are the major chemicals in the smoke... which one of these non-allergens are you somehow allergic to?

Tar

Cadmium

Benzene

Butane

Ethanol

I know ppl ALLERGIC to those...so much for them being "non-allergens"....women aren't supposed tobe allergic to chocolate either...and I know women that are...

[phee]

pomegranate juice???.....

Im talking cigarettes...they don't relieve stress.....shit you could shove a cucumber up your ass and relieve more stress that way.

Have you been spying on my family again???

Seriously... Cigarrettes are a stimulent... and they TEMPORARILY releave stress while increasing the general stress level in the body

[asphyxian_doll]

Have you been spying on my family again???

Seriously... Cigarrettes are a stimulent... and they TEMPORARILY releave stress while increasing the general stress level in the body

right.

Well with respect to the rest of the board.

I am ending MY posts in this thread...of course...that may seem odd since i started it.

But i realized were getting no where fast.

I did however realize many things about a few on here.

some i find enlightening.

anyhoo, cigarettes are nasty,

your choice to smoke them is yours,

and i respect the reaction of "few" who took offense....

sure it was a slight attack on your choices...but some learn from mistakes and some don't,

not my place to judge.

[Guest GodfallenPromos]

pomegranate juice???.....

Im talking cigarettes...they don't relieve stress.....shit you could shove a cucumber up your ass and relieve more stress that way.

only if your holding the cucumber.....

look...I'm not saying I NEED them all the time....nor am I saying that it's great to be a smoker....what I am saying is that it's different strokes for different folks....when I'm stressed out....I smoke to take part of my mind off the situation and it gives me something to do while I am worrying my ass off. It's more about having an oral fixation when I am nervious....nothing IN the cigarettes helps...I know that....but it's the psychological bit that has me hooked

the real bitch about it is that I don't even inhale...it's a waste of money more then it is for most ppl....I "smoke" purely for psychological stress reasons and for social situations...

btw...shouldn't you be at Ren Fest???

[asphyxian_doll]

only if your holding the cucumber.....

look...I'm not saying I NEED them all the time....nor am I saying that it's great to be a smoker....what I am saying is that it's different strokes for different folks....when I'm stressed out....I smoke to take part of my mind off the situation and it gives me something to do while I am worrying my ass off. It's more about having an oral fixation when I am nervious....nothing IN the cigarettes helps...I know that....but it's the psychological bit that has me hooked

the real bitch about it is that I don't even inhale...it's a waste of money more then it is for most ppl....I "smoke" purely for psychological stress reasons and for social situations...

btw...shouldn't you be at Ren Fest???

yes i should, but i had gotten sick from the dust and god knows what else.

Im taking a day to recuperate

[n0Mad]

yes i should, but i had gotten sick from the dust and god knows what else.

Second hand smoke?

[asphyxian_doll]

Second hand smoke?

mebbeh!!!!!

ugh those cigars could have been it, i was stuck at the guinness pub for so long...

icky turd shaped cancer logs.

[Guest GodfallenPromos]

mebbeh!!!!!

ugh those cigars could have been it, i was stuck at the guinness pub for so long...

icky turd shaped cancer logs.

*gasp*....hey...cigarettes can get bashed on all the time....but you leave former US. President Bill Clinton's Smokable Hallway Sex Toy alone!!!!

*glances*...wow...there is a product name for ya....the "U.S. President Bill Clinton's Smokable Hallway Sex Toy"....

[asphyxian_doll]

*gasp*....hey...cigarettes can get bashed on all the time....but you leave former US. President Bill Clinton's Smokable Hallway Sex Toy alone!!!!

*glances*...wow...there is a product name for ya....the "U.S. President Bill Clinton's Smokable Hallway Sex Toy"....

HAhahHAhaHAHhaHAHahHAHahha*coughhackhackcoughspewgargle*

DAMMIT!

[Head Wreck]

[asphyxian_doll]

thats...fucking....funny!

[SaGa]

Acetone

Cyanide

Aluminum

DDT/Dieldrin

Ammonia

Ethenol

Arsenic

Formaldehyde

Benzene

Hydrogen cyanide

Butane

Lead

Cadmium

Methanol

Carbon monoxide

Nicotine

Carbon dioxide

Tar

Chloroform

Vinyl Chloride

those are the major chemicals in the smoke... which one of these non-allergens are you somehow allergic to?

im still wondering where the aresnic comes from in the process, if its needed to bond the tobacco better. just seems odd to put such a element into the mix.. or even justifiable to do so. any other foods/drugs that use arsenic

[Miranda]

Saga,

Arsenic is often found in the pesticides used in tobacco farming.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Tar

Cadmium

Benzene

Butane

Ethanol

I know ppl ALLERGIC to those...so much for them being "non-allergens"....women aren't supposed tobe allergic to chocolate either...and I know women that are...

Tar? Really? Thats odd because Tar is used to treat allergic reactions on the skin.

As for the rest of your list... Saying your allergic to those is like saying you are allergic to fire. They are all poisons and harmful, in any significant quantity, to life.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Saga,

Arsenic is often found in the pesticides used in tobacco farming.

And the water.. infact... Michigan is known to have high concentrations of arsenic in the ground water. It's also used in cattle feed to fight desease... so it's in your hamburger. It's a naturally occurring element and rather abundant on Earth.

[asphyxian_doll]

And the water.. infact... Michigan is known to have high concentrations of arsenic in the ground water. It's also used in cattle feed to fight desease... so it's in your hamburger. It's a naturally occurring element and rather abundant on Earth.

right,...well tobacco plants are also treated with radio active phosphorus which in turn, is one of the suspicions for the high cancer rate in smokers.

lets just say, that every thing can kill you,

because it can, and the points you keep trying to make, i am already aware of.

"you may know a bit of the truth, but that does not make you an expert"

your choice to poison yourself is good enough for me to dismiss your "smug" comments.

Im over it.

Just as long as i don't have to inhale it and listen to this shit in person.

-end of rant-

[Oh_My_Goth]

The reason why to chose to start smoking has nothing to do with my point.

Im only judging the nature of the habit, and the naive responses i always tend to get.

I'm not really that worried about you finding me attractive.

thanks?

Why would you start a thread that just tries to make you look better than others if you were not worried what other people think of you?????

& why would you include this statement, if the reason has nothing to do with your point?????

you dont smoke because you like it, need it, or want it.....the ideology was shoved down your throat as a child, teen, adult

I don't generally get involved in these childish discussions about things like, how grody smoking is, but I feel you were being rude.....

Smoking is a serious addiction, and it is not proper to go around insulting people for having an addiction.....One that you probably don't even quite understand, because looking at how old you are, and how long you smoked, You probably only smoked when you got the chance, witch dose not constitute a full blown addiction.....

When you are addicted to something it rules you life in many ways.....

I am NOT disagreeing that smoking is bad or unattractive.....

I am unhappy with your "better than others" attitude.....

[SaGa]

Saga,

Arsenic is often found in the pesticides used in tobacco farming.

ahh guess thats a logical reason, learn something everyday . yah iv known for it being in michigans water. among other things in our waters. and to think everyone in the world is in envy of the great lakes

hmmm this also means its in most of our foods, i can assume amonia and arsenic. yet humans are living longer, gaf can i nominate you as the dgn goto guy for information that i could look up myself but am to lazy. your a walking textbook.

or better yet we should all pool in to work on a cure for cancer. yup it whould hit news, goths obsessed with black latex and objects of death, are searching for that cure.

[jynxxxedangel]

I could very well lay off the cigs-- but the present arrangement of the faces (and intactness of eardrums) of many other human beings depends upon me satisfying this love of nicotine daily.

Until I find another strong medicine which appeases my quick temper, and delays my reaction time, I will continue to be one of those odious, much-maligned users of this herb. At least I say a silent prayer to the Great Spirit each time I light up-- I never take tobacco for granted, as some do. It is a powerful and ancient medicine!

[asphyxian_doll]

Why would you start a thread that just tries to make you look better than others if you were not worried what other people think of you?????

& why would you include this statement, if the reason has nothing to do with your point?????

I don't generally get involved in these childish discussions about things like, how grody smoking is, but I feel you were being rude.....

Smoking is a serious addiction, and it is not proper to go around insulting people for having an addiction.....One that you probably don't even quite understand, because looking at how old you are, and how long you smoked, You probably only smoked when you got the chance, witch dose not constitute a full blown addiction.....

When you are addicted to something it rules you life in many ways.....

I am NOT disagreeing that smoking is bad or unattractive.....

I am unhappy with your "better than others" attitude.....

my attitude was misconstrued....don't point the fucking finger.

I'm a blunt person...if i thought i was better than others, i would say it with no problems, or issues with the reaction of others towards that statement.

[asphyxian_doll]

Smoking is a serious addiction, and it is not proper to go around insulting people for having an addiction.....One that you probably don't even quite understand, because looking at how old you are, and how long you smoked, You probably only smoked when you got the chance, witch dose not constitute a full blown addiction.....

When you are addicted to something it rules you life in many ways.....

I am NOT disagreeing that smoking is bad or unattractive.....

I am unhappy with your "better than others" attitude.....

Don't talk to me like you know me.

I'm no better than anyone else, and I like yourself have a right to speak out about my opinions.

what i probably did, or how old i am, doesn't give you the right to assume anything about me.

YOU LET ADDICTION RULE YOUR LIFE.

I DONT.

DONT APPLY THAT SHIT TO ME.

better than others attitude my ass....im just stating facts about myself, and my opinions...and yet again, if i thought that, id say it to your face.

Im sorry you feel that way, and im sorry you look at me like that, but what im not sorry for is who i am.

And you don't know me, and most likely never will...preach to those who want to listen, and if you do, do it with conviction.

[Oh_My_Goth]

I was just making a point, kid.....Now your all offended.....Now go some place else and

[asphyxian_doll]

I was just making a point, kid.....Now your all offended.....Now go some place else and

co-dependent much?

did i say that? YES I DID!

ruh roh!

[SaGa]

i think you all need to smoke something other then cigs its a personal choice to smoke, and the best way to help someone quit is to encourage them or bring them to people who dont smoke and wont judge them if they do smoke a bit. usually hanging out with non smokers i end up smoking less,

negative judgement does not help quitting. it only creates self judgement which might make the psycological cravings for the vice worse.

most smokers (not all) do use good smoking manners. the ones who dont have manners tends to help stereotype all smokers as rude smokers that blow smoke in peoples faces. or light one up infront of kids or someone they know hates the smell. thats human nature for the worst to represent the majority through bad publicity