cigarettes

[asphyxian_doll]

Tar? Really? Thats odd because Tar is used to treat allergic reactions on the skin.

As for the rest of your list... Saying your allergic to those is like saying you are allergic to fire. They are all poisons and harmful, in any significant quantity, to life.

regarding cigarettes

[asphyxian_doll]

Never said you were... didn't even try to blame anything on you.

You really shouldn't accuse people you don't know of having a psychological disorder based off one conversation. It doesn't win the arguement for you. It only shows you have run out of options when it comes to defending your position and have fallen back to name calling.

Do you even know if I smoke?

Do you? i don't know.

Are you taking this personally because this wasn't meant to be personal in the first place.

[asphyxian_doll]

Co-dependency means: someone who exhibits too much concentrating or concern for another person, therefore, partied to one side of a needy relationship of two clingy and needy people where neither are getting what they want from it.

meh...

co-dependency

[asphyxian_doll]

Now you call me an idiot. Real mature.

I never said you were an idiot, those are your words not mine.

I said your statements were idiotic, not you.

[Miranda]

meh...

co-dependency

Yeah... and 1 fucking fits what I said. And 2 fucking fits what you said... heh.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Some if my "Facts"

According to the WHO, Smoking does NOT cause Cancer.

From the CDC's website...

Exposure to nonallergens that irritate the respiratory tract (e.g., environmental tobacco smoke)

I can link pages and pages of information to back up my views on the dangers and the myths of smoking.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Regarding cigarettes

OMG, thats fucking funny. Thats sopposed to back up your position? A website that sells detox? And has no footnotes or scientific data to back up what they say?

[asphyxian_doll]

OMG, thats fucking funny. Thats sopposed to back up your position? A website that sells detox? And has no footnotes or scientific data to back up what they say?

theres more, go do your homework if you want facts

cigarettes

[asphyxian_doll]

Some if my "Facts"

According to the WHO, Smoking does NOT cause Cancer.

From the CDC's website...

I can link pages and pages of information to back up my views on the dangers and the myths of smoking.

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The Journal of Theoretics, Inc is a non-profit organization devoted to the betterment of mankind by enabling scientific advance through the development of the field of Theoretics and dispersing scientifically credible theories and information to the scientific community and population at large.- credible THEORY isn't fact.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

WebMD on Allergies

What you will find is that smoke is never mentioned.

this is my favorite article... it's about Multiple Chemical Sensitivity, which is the clinical term for "being allergic to smoke". WebMD on MCS

this is my favorite part

Approaches to treatment vary. Most healthcare providers recommend avoiding the chemicals or foods that seem to trigger reactions. Some providers refer people with MCS to psychiatrists or psychologists, mental health professionals specially trained to diagnose and treat mental health disorders.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I never said you were an idiot, those are your words not mine.

I said your statements were idiotic, not you.

Oh. Fine little edge you are walking. Be careful, you might fall off.

[Oh_My_Goth]

Thats the second time I have seen you use the term co-dependent. Do you know what it means? I ask because in neither case was a co-dependant nature shown.

Thank you.....

I did not feel like getting into that, so I just left it alone.....

[Oh_My_Goth]

Co-dependent is enabling.

She was enabling cigarette smoking, because she was defending the behavior and trying to make me the bad guy...playing the protector, vigilante, savior....of smokers.

You don't know what your talking about.

I'm not your scape goat.

Now you are being a bit presumptuous abut my words.....

I was not defending cigarette smoking, I was defending people.....

[freydis]

This arguement is sounding perilously like the meat vs vegan arguements. With A_D sounding like a militant vegan.

It's a lifestyle choice (smoking, that is). Personally, I think it's disgusting. However, it's no call to get rude with people who don't agree with your opinion.

So calm the hell down.

[Guest GodfallenPromos]

*locks Gaf, OMG, SaGa, and A_D in a large arena together........comes out dressed like Shao Khan*

MORTAL KOMBAT!!!!!!!

FIGHT!

jumping Jim Varney, ppl....are we seriously having ANOTHER fight about cigarettes???

look...there are about 100 things in cigarettes that SHOULDN'T Be there....but they are....and smokers smoke for different reasons.

now...to those that don't smoke...hey...awesome....one less addiction on your card....but as long as I repect your right and want to NOT want me to smoke around you.....I am gonna ask for you not to gimme a bunch of shyt when I smoke AWAY from you. I'm not a monkey...this isn't the zoo....I don't need to be put in a pen with a ditch around it just because I smoke...and yes....some of you non-smokers make it feel that way.

Smokers.....HOLY SHYT.....your an angsty buncha ppl!!!....Yes...I know A_D could have used more tact (well babes...you could have), and maybe more then some of the stuff came off as a bit snobby (hence the lack of tact), but are you having a reaction to what she is trying to get across....or HOW she said it??

[Nienna]

Honestly, I smoke because I LOVE smoking. I'm a social smoker and have been for around 15 years. If I'm at a club, bar, camping, etc, Yeah, I'm smoking like a chimney. I don't smoke at all at home or during the week. I don't have any addiction of any sort and never have. Everybody has their stupid vice. This is mine, and I honestly don't think it's anyone else's business.

[Rev.Reverence]

*locks Gaf, OMG, SaGa, and A_D in a large arena together........comes out dressed like Shao Khan*

MORTAL KOMBAT!!!!!!!

FIGHT!

jumping Jim Varney, ppl....are we seriously having ANOTHER fight about cigarettes???

Smokers.....HOLY SHYT.....your an angsty buncha ppl!!!....Yes...I know A_D could have used more tact (well babes...you could have), and maybe more then some of the stuff came off as a bit snobby (hence the lack of tact), but are you having a reaction to what she is trying to get across....or HOW she said it??

I had no problem with 'the news'; it was the general attitude of the correspondent... & as you can clearly see Cousin... I let it die yesterday... but it is like watching Harold & Kumar... I can't stop! hahahahaha

[Rev.Reverence]

This arguement is sounding perilously like the meat vs vegan arguements. With A_D sounding like a militant vegan.

It's a lifestyle choice (smoking, that is). Personally, I think it's disgusting. However, it's no call to get rude with people who don't agree with your opinion.

So calm the hell down.

[Oh_My_Goth]

*locks Gaf, OMG, SaGa, and A_D in a large arena together........comes out dressed like Shao Khan*

MORTAL KOMBAT!!!!!!!

FIGHT!

jumping Jim Varney, ppl....are we seriously having ANOTHER fight about cigarettes???

look...there are about 100 things in cigarettes that SHOULDN'T Be there....but they are....and smokers smoke for different reasons.

now...to those that don't smoke...hey...awesome....one less addiction on your card....but as long as I repect your right and want to NOT want me to smoke around you.....I am gonna ask for you not to gimme a bunch of shyt when I smoke AWAY from you. I'm not a monkey...this isn't the zoo....I don't need to be put in a pen with a ditch around it just because I smoke...and yes....some of you non-smokers make it feel that way.

Smokers.....HOLY SHYT.....your an angsty buncha ppl!!!....Yes...I know A_D could have used more tact (well babes...you could have), and maybe more then some of the stuff came off as a bit snobby (hence the lack of tact), but are you having a reaction to what she is trying to get across....or HOW she said it??

Personally, I think I made my point that it was HOW it was said.....

Here on DGN, we are a generally friendly community, I don't see very many people start threads that are intended to insult people for things they do.....

I find shizer/scat to be horribly disgusting, but I am not going to devote an entire thread trying to get other people to openly agree that somebody else's choice of habits makes Me sick.....

I am sooo done feeding the Troll now.....

Have a nice day kiddies.....

[Guest GodfallenPromos]

I am sooo done feeding the Troll now.....

Have a nice day kiddies.....

*sulks under his bridge and waits for the next "billy goat gruff"*

[Rev.Reverence]

*sulks under his bridge and waits for the next "billy goat gruff"*

*goat horn meets ass maneuver*

*splash*

[asphyxian_doll]

This arguement is sounding perilously like the meat vs vegan arguements. With A_D sounding like a militant vegan.

It's a lifestyle choice (smoking, that is). Personally, I think it's disgusting. However, it's no call to get rude with people who don't agree with your opinion.

So calm the hell down.

Its apparent that the majority who are posting have missed my original point.

I will calm down, when i stop getting attacked for my opinions on the habit, not the people who chose to smoke.

[asphyxian_doll]

Now you are being a bit presumptuous abut my words.....

I was not defending cigarette smoking, I was defending people.....

i wasn't attacking people.

simple.

[asphyxian_doll]

Oh. Fine little edge you are walking. Be careful, you might fall off.

idiocies 1. utterly senseless or foolish behavior; a stupid or foolish act, statement, etc.

Ive got a lot to tread on.

[asphyxian_doll]

horribly.....disgusting.

I was a smoker for 4 years....

quit cold turkey, no problem...

and in the months of being clean, i have realized this.

Women while smoking, don't look classy, contrary to their perception....ughhh why include that in a beautiful picture of you?! and shit it just looks plain gross.

grody

icky,

whatever.

I have never known such hatred for any drug, alcoholic beverage,

or substance as much as cigarettes.

*blech!*

I see a beautiful lady, walking down the street, gorgeous hair, eyes....skin....and all of a sudden

she pulls out a cigarette, designed to kill, and control...every undesirable in america.

its a form of control....i mean common!

you dont smoke because you like it, need it, or want it.....the ideology was shoved down your throat as a child, teen, adult.....and of course is accepted by society as this normality, when the only damn thing that habit does is kill.

plain and simple.

I had simply stated that the cigarette...or HABIT, is disgusting despite how beautiful the woman may be...even men.

It kills, and its a habit of choice....not just some addiction your born with.

That an opinion, if you want to interpret that as an ATTACK on anyone PERSONALLY,

thats fine....i don't mind, because its not.